DCNR evaluating overcrowding at Beltzville
DCNR evaluating overcrowding at Beltzville
Department of Conservation and Natural Resources officials today met with local legislators to update them on plans for a study related to the local community and visitor experience at the 3,002-acre Beltzville State Park in Carbon County.
Especially on summer holiday weekends, crowds often exceed the capacity of the park’s parking lots and other facilities.
“With the help of a contractor, DCNR will be talking with different stakeholders who live and work around, and visit the park, about the challenges that the park’s popularity presents, and about whether they have any suggested solutions,” DCNR Director of the Bureau of State Parks John Hallas said.
Ann Toole of Toole Recreation Planning met with state Rep. Doyle Heffley and staff from the office of state Sen. John Yudichak. Toole will be interviewing stakeholders for their perspective on the challenges and solutions.
The information gathered will be used to create a public survey that will be conducted through Penn State.
Starting in mid-summer of this year, Penn State representatives will visit the park to survey visitors in person through Labor Day weekend, and would anticipate returning in 2019 to survey from Memorial Day weekend through mid-summer.
The land at the park is owned by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers for flood control, and managed for recreation by DCNR.
Attractions at Beltzville State Park include Pohopoco Creek, an excellent trout stream that feeds the 949-acre Beltzville Lake, which is a destination for boaters. Other attractions include the 525-feet sand swimming beach; and picnic areas.
For more information about Pennsylvania’s 121 state parks, visit the DCNR website at www.dcnr.pa.gov.
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commonwealth. Politicians should be very careful attempting to side with anyone who moves against the use of state property by targeted commonwealth residents. This picture strongly suggest the target. Shame TN.
You don't have a problem with this? Do YOU?
I didn't think so! Ignorant....
Study, study, study, delay, and delay. It is an old yet very effective government trick.
I too have went here since the 70's, and it's true, it got crowded back then. On days when the lot was full, my Dad would leave and say we had to get there earlier next time. He didn't just park where he felt like it and teach us that we "deserve" to be here regardless of the rules.
And someone said litter was just as bad back than?? That's someone who truly wasn't there back then. It was not even close by any stretch of the imagination. The park was pristine and only occasionally may there have been extra trash piled on top of the dumpster. That is why there is a limit to the number of people who can reasonably enjoy this resource at the one time.
As for bacteria levels being from "farms", why than every year is there higher levels of bacteria, and less farms than there ever was around the lake?
Nearly very lake and river beach that is free, or relatively cheap in rural Pa has been enveloped with minority elements that seem to not have the same value for cleanliness as the rest of us.
Whether we just bicker about this forever or choose to really enforce existing "no parking" signs and make changes that can really make a positive difference is at the hands of those in charge.
It seems like for the past decade those in charge are not willing to "break a few eggs" to make a cake. Maybe it's time for some new bakers that will look out for the "quality" of the resource they are collecting paychecks to protect, and not be afraid to be considered 'racist' by enforcing the laws.
And congratulations to all that continue to throw trash out cars windows and make Pennsylvania roads look disgusting. It is nobody's job to pick up our trash. It is each person's responsibility to put it where it belongs in the first place.
Please understand on the crowded weekends there are dumpsters spaced along the parking lot to the beach area. You can't leave the beach area and not pass withing 50 feet of a dumpster yet there will be trash - and I mean trash like you cannot believe all over the parking lot.
Now drive over to the boat launch. It too is PACKED yet there's no trash or very little. And there's no dumpster there. Why is that?
I don't like the same things DIGGINGOUT@1 mentioned. Something tells me if you could understand Spanish that's a lot of what you'd be hearing (cursing and such) at the lake. However, we are not talking about rednecks, beer bellies, vulgar little kids, or fat cows. That's a discussion for maybe Mauch Chunk Lake, or the Carbon County Fair. We're talking about slobs throwing their trash all over a state park.
It's not illegal to be a fat, stupid, vulgar, bare bellied, beer guzzling redneck unless you add smoking in the wrong place. Then you might be arrested.
It is illegal to litter in a State Park - no matter who you are.
How you going to direct traffic? The park is full and more people what to get in. So they park on Pohopoco Road and walk in like in the picture above. By the way those signs in the picture say NO PARKING.
If you, me, and everyone posting went down the the lake on Thursday and parked on the grass and threw garbage on the ground NEXT TO OUR PARKED CAR the Rangers would be all over us and WE would have a problem. Now if we did that the 1,500 of our friends the PARK would have a problem.
And that's where we're at.
I am so happy that our little community has this place to offer to all who want to enjoy. I don't expect someone to drive for two hours to get here, see there is no parking and turn around to go home. People are people - whether they're clean or messy. It would be ideal if throngs of people would leave the place in pristine condition after a holiday weekend, but they don't.
So hey, State of PA, don't take a survey, don't ask stakeholders their opinion, and for heaven's sake, no referendums. Do your job, make the decisions, hire the workers, add a parking lot, and just deal with the problem. To the rest of you. Go! Go there and enjoy it, locals and "outsiders" alike. Go and enjoy it to the fullest, have a great day there!
Perhaps the solution is to hand out beach/launch access passes to keep count. Once they hit the cap, put a sign at 209 and 534 and another at 209 and Harrity that says the beach is closed or the park is at capacity so that people don't continue to drive toward the lake and creating a bottleneck on Pocohopo. I think you can also pass legislation that littering at State Parks carries and EXTREME cost in fines. Something like $1000 for the first offense. They may not pay it, but the perpetrator likely won't be coming back to the lake anytime soon. There are things that can be done to control the madness.
I've always thought and advocated for some kind of entrance fee. $3.00 to $5.00 per carload isn't going to break anybody's budget. And Carbon County residents should be able to either purchase or register for a low or no-cost season pass they can put on their dashboard. We also have to realize that we've experienced a population boom of epic proportions in the past 30 years or so. There's not a lot of pristine farmland or woodland available in the area. The added pressure on Beltzville or any other local attractions is a manifestation of the burgeoning population. State and local governments need to come up with a workable solution that helps to preserve places like Beltzville, alleviates overcrowding, but still allows anybody to enjoy the facilities.
My family and I were so excited to go to the local lake. I see first hand all the overcrowding and garbage. The garbage is not just on land it’s also out in the lake there has been countless times I stopped and picked up plastic bottles and bags along with other things out in the lake. It’s not just the problem with trash on the beeches it’s going to eventually affect the wildlife of the lake. I live ten minutes from beltzville and I drive to lake wallenpaupake to fish and enjoy swimming and nature. The reason why all “the city folk” come to beltzville is simple. All the parks and lakes in New Jersey and New York you have to pay to get in so the city folk would rather drive hours to a free lake. Then they are free to party destroy and wreck those people don’t come to enjoy and embrace its a party with no clean up and go home. I met people out there from the five boroughs of New York. Very rude ignorant people on personal watercraft cutting people off cursing at others in front of kids it’s horrid and there needs to be a change. Everything is going to stay exactly as business as usual until we the people of this area stand together and force change. I have spoke to a couple people and they keep saying can’t charge it’s a free park. Well I say B.S it’s owned by the army corps of engineers and ran by dcnr ok great we need to go to the army corps of engineers and have them make the change. It’s easy local carbon residents is free pa residents 2 dollars a person 5 a person for out of state people. Boats registered in pa free every other 20 dollars for the day. And with the extra money they can hire more guards to patrol and fine the redneck slobs for littering having alcohol and everything else.